Full Transcript: 1999-03-04 – Dreams and Symbols 1 of 3

March 4, 1999
Troy Tolley, Channel
Dreams and Symbols 1 of 3

[See 1999-09-02 and 1999-10-07 for part 2 and 3, respectively]

[Michael_Entity] Hello everyone. We are here.

We’ll start off with the weather forecast as usual and comment on your shared exploration of symbols on your discussion lists today. We had mentioned in our last couple of interactions that some of you were looking to ANIMALS as symbols for where you were heading in your exploration of probable futures. It is clear that many of you partaking in the discussions today on your lists will be moving further into your EXTERNAL worlds and lending your presence to actions required there. The symbolism in your debate and exchange over where animals stand in terms of rights was obviously not the level of discussion occurring for yourselves internally, with your own Essences, but rather gauging where you individually stand with how much you are willing to give OUTWARDLY this year. Your debate was symbolic.

It is a difficult and enticing potential decision to be making yourselves available for outward interaction when you have mostly, for the past couple of years, (and some of you for the past four or five years), have been INWARDLY healing and improving. This period of time where your symbols showed up and where your reactions stood individually, brings up some very personal and deeply touched issues that have “just” been “healed” to a degree. What we mean by this is that any of you interacting with ANIMALS as symbols over the past few weeks, where animals were in dreams, or as in today’s exchange in heated discussion, essence has suggested through these symbols that you might be “ready” to “go back out there”.

Many of you have been bored with your EXTERNAL worlds giving intensity and focused lessons in your INTERPERSONAL worlds. Though interpersonal relationships are far from being completed in terms of lessons, it is a period of time currently where many Older Souls are being called outwardly to be present in the world for more impact. We will say this: As the exploration of symbols comes to a close sometime into next week, we have seen those of you who have brought ANIMALS to the forefront of your symbolism each having some sort of Teacher/Student Agreements unfolding. We would suggest you trust your inclinations to “reach out” to those who ask.

Finally, March 12 through 14 appear to be pivotal days for most you gathered here. This is the overall window for your finalizing your decisions on an Essence and Personality level for:

1. How available you will be,
2. In what capacity you will be available,
3. For what length of time you will be willing to take focus off of your personal lives.


[k1] There are five us joining to gather on the internet to connect. Can you give us some advice on what the first focus might be? This is a regular committed group of students.

[Michael_Entity] It appears to us that you have already decided that focus, which could be called “collective intuitive exposure”. Each of you are exposing to what capacity you are capable of intuitive EXPRESSION and RECEPTION, some of you will be receiving, while others EXPRESSING. Specifically we see 2 of you as expressing data that has been collected during your individual pursuits, while 3 of you are receiving, either through the 2 expressing or through their own heightened levels of development in your gatherings.

TOPIC: Dreams & Symbols

Dreams have become highlighted again, and usually are, during Parallel Shifts. This is one way with which to explore all of your options as ESSENCE and including Personality.

When one enters into Dream State, it is almost always entered through the Instinctive Center. The Instinctive Center acts as a mediating ground for determining what is to be experienced while the body is resting.

There are THREE levels or planes of Dreaming.

Astral/Lower Centers
Out Of Body/Higher Centers

Depending on the nature of the Waking State prior to sleeping, you will enter Instinctive Center, assimilate or evaluate your experiences, and move on to either Astral or Out Of Body.

We will address the Symbolic Level first:

It is easily determined when in the Symbolic level because there are simply SYMBOLS everywhere. This is the level where most find quite elaborate fantastical worlds and strange interactions and props. While in this level, simple concerns of the day or registered events not consciously noted are brought to light and processed, stored. This is also where all of your Sub personalities interact and exchange their perceptions of events. All of the symbols experienced here MEAN SOMETHING, but it is only through individual analysis that one can truly determine their meaning.

We will note here that if one were to never discover the meanings of their internal symbols nothing would be lost except conscious interaction between inner and outer domains; it is certainly not NECESSARY to know the meanings of symbols in your dreams.

Why we share this information with our Students is simply because many of you are in a place where “inner” and “outer” are closer together, therefore knowledge gained in one area means breakthrough on many levels.

To move on: While in the Instinctive Center or Symbolic Level, depending on your particular Centering or Center “worked” that day, you will then move FROM the Symbolic through, for instance, the Emotional PART of the Instinctive Center. To elaborate then, the Instinctive Level or Symbolic Level would then have 7 “doors” through which to move. The most fantastical and indecipherable dreams are from the Instinctive PART of the Instinctive Center. You have remained in pure symbolism. This is helpful for processing experiences carried over from past lives, and certain parts of early life THIS lifetime. This is also the level with which many gain lucidity and claim Astral Projection, warning of dangers and fearful domains. This is due to the pure experience of Instinctive/Symbolic exploration while in a conscious state.

Now the next level, the ASTRAL level, is where most of you go next.

This is simply where you make your Agreements, learn from each other, play out Karma not requiring Physical presence, etc. The Astral Level is extremely fluid and still utilizes symbols (all levels do to a certain extent) and it is easily determined you have “been there” if upon rising you literally FEEL like you have “gone somewhere”. This is truly the realm of Essence. Where the Symbolic Level is about Personality and its Sub personalities, the ASTRAL is about Essence and its Personalities.

We will move quickly to the next level, realizing again the constraints of your time.

In rare designs of Personality and under certain conditions, Out Of Body experiences occur. This is able to occur since upon leaving the Symbolic, the consciousness moves through one of the Higher Centers. In this instance, literally, Essence AND Personality fuse and are able to sustain the Etheric Body in such a way as to remain within the Physical Plane without the constraints of a Physical reference. A fusion of energies rather rare within this time period of your species is experienced in this event. A more recent and not uncommon bridging of acceptance toward this level of dreaming is in Near Death Experiences.

This is merely the scratched surface of this topic, but we will take questions now in regard to the topic.


[M6] I dreamed I was with this chat group at a party in a beautiful and old apartment building. I felt I knew everyone and was excited to arrive. I had a specific task relating to a specific person. What level was this dream, and what did it signify about our relationships and work together?

[Michael_Entity] Although we have not elaborated on the more specific levels, this would be, from our perspective, the Astral, of course, and Intellectual Substrate [note from Otterly [aka Troy Tolley]: I hadn’t heard of this before and will be getting more on it. We will be continuing this topic at the next meeting]. The significance would be an angle with which you need to explore. This dream is incomplete in its exploration. We see this as a sequential dream.


[El] I just wanted to ask how one can remember the astral work?

[Michael_Entity] The dream experts are correct. Upon rising, a simple noting of certain memories from dreaming, even if vague, is the most effective route toward Conscious Recall. When looking over your notes it is also an extended exercise for the conscious waking self to fill in the gaps with imagined experiences. This means, if you can’t remember what ACTUALLY occurred, it is not amiss to pull up creative ideas based on what you wrote, drawing still from your unconscious/dreaming self. Be creative.

[Michael_Entity] NEXT.

[Jn]I have some rather similar dreams where I am in familiar places (in dreams, not in physical) and met with familiar people. Are these dreams contacts from entity mates? Are we meeting for our entity task? BTW, what’s my entity task?

[Michael_Entity] Many of these contacts, in your case, as we see it are more than your Entity Mates, they are your Essence’s manifestations through time; past life selves. You are in a lifetime where gathering knowledge from a multitude of similar selves across time is a regular resource for your present self. So this is more of an element of Essence Task not necessarily an Entity Task although they are linked. The Task of your Essence (or one of your Personal Life Tasks) then would be “gathering personal definitions of strength through recollected knowledge”.

[Michael_Entity] NEXT

[Mn] To which level would you liken Jung’s archetypes of the collective unconscious? And can you say anything about following his methods of dream interpretation, or is it better to devise your own?

[Michael_Entity] Archetypes are Waking State Symbols. We have not covered this yet here. Though they DO spring from the Astral Collective ideas (or Unconscious Collective), they are still an outward manifestation. We will cover waking state symbols in our next exchange, and the levels involved. As far as Jung’s method of dream interpretation, we find it heavily flawed in that it negates the individual to a great degree. There were clues here to levels of information about Collective Unconscious/Astral Collective, but to apply it to dream ANALYSIS moves one in a direction where his theories are less workable.

[Michael_Entity] NEXT

[a1] On what level does lucid dreaming occur?

[Michael_Entity] ALL levels. It can occur on any level. Lucid Dreaming is an umbrella term. To be LUCID simply means you are conscious while on the level of dreaming being experienced. There are levels in which it is more difficult to attain this state, particularly the Instinctive PART of the Instinctive Center. Although, ironically, this is the first level to gain notoriety for lucidity due to its bizarre landscapes.

[Michael_Entity] NEXT

[fg] I’ve had many dreaming experiences, some of which I thought were conscious out of body experiences. From what was said here they seem on the other hand to be rare. Last night I had such a dream. Have these dreams I’m speaking of not been conscious OOB? Is it a case of just being lucid astrally speaking?

[Michael_Entity] You are correct. Lucid Astral Dreaming is most often mistaken for Out Of Body. We will say that Lucid Astral Dreaming seems to the be the popular chosen route as a “springboard” for OOBEs. The experiences on the Astral, while lucid, gives the Personality some stability in its preparation for completely disengaging from Body. It does require extremely heightened consciousness to sustain the Etheric body while moving through the Physical Plane, or heavily sustained injuries “knocking” the Etheric out of the body, Personality intact. Note we did not say you have not had an OOBE, in fact you have. It is through your studies and examinations of the minute differences between the ASTRAL and your OOBE that you will then be able to maintain an “open door” out of the body, if you wish.

[Michael_Entity] NEXT

[s5] Bridging of Acceptance and Deathscapes, how are these two subjects intertwined? Where does one’s own creativity intrude?

[Michael_Entity] If you are referring to our information about Near Death Experiences being a bridge to acceptance of “natural” OOBE, this is simply because your species has chosen to take this route of exposure for this realm. Those sharing their experiences are in a position of influence on a “grass roots” level. Though many contributing to this phenomenon are Late Baby Souls, they are nonetheless contributing to the acceptability of “something” valid in terms of consciousness beyond the body.

[s5] I am just trying to understand which is which?

[Michael_Entity] S, ‘which is which’?

[s5] What is created vs what is real? Or once created does it become real?

[Michael_Entity] The reason for your confusion comes from the fact that there is no defining boundary. That is why a valid form of dream recollection is to “make up” the parts you do not remember upon waking.

[Michael_Entity] We will take another question, then complete the session.

[ha] Back to the OOBE line; I had an unusual experience where I felt like I was lying on top of myself, what would this indicate–OOB or lucid dreaming? Or something other?

[Michael_Entity] This is the beginning of OOBE. You are becoming lucid “too quickly”, drawing yourself “back into” the body.

[ha] Yes, I totally understand. I’m of two minds about whether to go or not.

[Michael_Entity] We will share more of the details of these levels of dreaming for Otterly [aka Troy Tolley] to put on his web site. We can continue in our next exchange. We will close the session now. Good night.