September 2, 1999
Troy Tolley, Channel
Dreams and Symbols 2 of 3
[See 1999-03-02 and 1999-10-07 for part 1 and 3, respectively]
[Note from Otterly aka Troy Tolley: The chats no longer include the “Energy Weather Report”. They are channeled in the night before and posted to the TrueView List. This allows more time for Q & A on the Energy Report and for the Topic.]
[Michael_Entity] Hello to all of you. We are here. One moment.
We will open by taking questions from you in regard to our posted Energy Report. If there are any questions or comments, we will respond now.
[La] You mentioned clear goals for the East and West Coasts, but what of the rest of the country… Do we not have such definitive geographic goals, or should we identify with one Coast or the other?
[Michael_Entity] When we speak of the “east” or “west” it is the channel who adds in “Coast”. We mean to differentiate more or less as a division in three parts: The River known as the Mississippi and East would be “East”. Santa Fe as a marker, more or less running an imaginary line North and South, on over West would be “West”. All between, marked mainly by the width of the State known as Texas, is a mixing of energy. From these basic references you might be able to define your geographical location and which influences are strongest for you.
DREAMS & SYMBOLS – Part 2
[Michael_Entity] We define the Topic in two terms because they are not limited to any partitions you may believe experienced. What is termed “dreams” may easily be experienced in certain forms while meditating or simply noting your environment (including body) while in waking state.
“Symbols” are important on all planes up through and including the Causal. As you approach your waking state in as meaningful a manner of interpretation as you would a “dream”, much is gained. We began this Topic in March of 1999, this year, so we will not cover the basics again at this point, but we will continue.
Tonight we will cover the Instinctive Levels/Symbolic.
Whether in Waking State or in what is termed actual “dreaming” (the biological relinquishing of presence), Symbols play an important and integral part of your realities.
At this point we will describe the three levels of Symbols. We correct the channeling here by referring to “levels” instead as “facets”. The three facets of Symbolism are familiar as the axis the Overleaf system is based on. There are Expressive, Inspirational, and Action, with Assimilation not acting as a facet, but rather the comprehension of the original Symbol. The three facets are consistent in “dreams” or waking state. Since “dreaming” can occur in either Waking State or Sleep State, we will use Sleep or Waking to differentiate from here.
The EXPRESSIVE facet, related to the Intellectual Center, is anything in your environment that is truly an extension of you. This would include the state of your immediate environment, the clothes you choose, your style of hair, and your mannerisms. This facet is usually regarded as the “most important” personally. By this we mean that if it is interfered with in any way, there is usually a sense of imposition, fear, reaction, defense, etc. This is the facet reflecting what you see as “you”.
The INSPIRATIONAL facet, related to the Emotional Center, is what might be termed the “messages” received around you; omens, the traditional usage of symbols, anything standing out as a distraction in your usual or expected environment or self, any discrepancies. This includes illnesses, extraordinary experiences, conversations of some intensity or surprise, lying, revelations, etc.
The ACTION facet, related to the Moving Center, is the literal action taken in response to any stimulation, including your reactions, your excitement, anything connecting one point to another. This is also the facet that is usually considered your “feelings” since what is usually accepted as “feelings” are Moving Centered. The symbolism from this facet can include the motivation behind the actions.
As in many of our online chats with you, we realize we are limited in your time. We will pause now fro questions in regard to these facets before moving on.
[bn] I had a dream where I was leaving my military life behind for good even though I had been out of the military for over a year. I have the feeling that I was transitioning a level of the 4th internal monad instead. Can Michael verify if I moved ahead a level in the completion of the 4th IM?
[Michael_Entity] We will make some time following the basics for personal dream analysis. We will look into this as we progress though.
Any questions about the facets.
We will continue then.
[M6] What is meant by “the biological relinquishing of presence”?
[Michael_Entity] In response to M6: In order to “dream”, in either sleep or waking state, we would consider this the biological relinquishing of presence, in that no need for or want for focus externally is experienced. “You” are no longer present. Your body simply acts as a “bookmarker” for your reality as you at some point “return”. We speak to this more metaphorically than literally.
We will continue.
While in waking state, at any moment, you can choose to observe your environment (this includes your body) as a means for utilizing symbols. Treating waking state as you would a dream, determining the facet the symbol reflects, and “listening” to the messages, can be quite liberating. At this very moment your environment is no different than in sleep state, except in its apparent solidity. Looking around you, it is clear what is “you” (the EXPRESSIVE facet), what is “not you” (the INSPIRATIONAL facet) and what you are going to do in response (the ACTION facet). It is the same in sleeping state.
There will always be areas that are “you”, “not you” and the actions as a metaphor. The comprehension (as a reminder) in either case, whether sleeping or waking, is the ASSIMILATIVE facet.
In the case of Barry: The “Military Life” is the EXPRESSIVE facet, the “leaving” is ACTION, while the discrepancy in the time of leaving was the INSPIRATIONAL. The message here can be seen in the apparent “delay” of progress internally that needed to be addressed; “life was moving on” without some internal progress being registered. This can lead to overwhelm when internal and external do not “match”, and the dream state helped to align these levels of self. The symbolic leaving of the Military internally is an indication that you have released final influences INTERNALLY carried from the experience, even if before you had ceased to EXTERNALLY be affected. While we say, “released” we mean more accurately that you integrated what works and released what does not.
[bn] During the dream I had intense feeling of release or finally being free….
[Michael_Entity] That would be expected, in this case. To BN: do you see the symbolism and the facets clearly?
[bn] Yes. So it didn’t have to do with moving on in the 4th IM but dropping the military personality finally… I didn’t realize I was holding onto it that much….
[Michael_Entity] We did not say that. We were merely responding to the level of symbolism as it applied. The more personal application can be extracted from there. You determine your progress through the Internal Monads. We do not. We will comment on that progress at a later date, if asked, but your own assessment seems to be accurate.
[Michael_Entity] Questions? To help bring the practical applications of this information to bear, we will take any personal questions as well, in regard to dreams. Be brief in your descriptions.
[LE] Could you just use the symbols to clue into your internal progress so as to help bring balance between both the waking and dream worlds?
[Michael_Entity] In response to LE: While there are many times when sleeping dreams and symbols are left resting in subconsiousness, the waking state can always lend you clues. This method of utilizing your visual or experiential environment as a means for comprehension is empowering and valid. This can then bring what your refer to as “balance”. In further response to LE, we realize you have placed the word “just” in your question. Utilizing only one or the other, the sleeping or waking state as a means for comprehension will always be difficult. It is much more efficient to utilize both worlds, though yes, seeking the symbols in one world as the other seems less accessible can bring balance as well.
[Fg] I’m wondering about people from my past, usually high school showing up in my dreams. Many I didn’t know personally.
[Michael_Entity] Yes FG. You have not asked a question.
[Fg] They usually play some role in helping me do something I’m trying to accomplish within the dream (or work against me). I’m wondering why this type of symbol is used, especially in the case when I didn’t know them
[Michael_Entity] We will walk through this to help in application: The characters involved would be from the EXPRESSIVE facet in that they represent a time in your life and people who comprised that time in your life. That you did not “know” many whom are “helping” in the dream is the INSPRATIONAL facet, the message. The shared focus, what you are “trying to accomplish”, would be the ACTION facet.
We do see this as stemming from what we would refer to as the ASTRAL LEVEL of dreaming (which we have covered in the past, but tonight will not). The characters involved here in your dream are mere aspects of self, represented in part by “strangers” and some recognized individuals. FG, you have long suppressed aspects of yourself stemming from your teens and this dreaming experience helps to bring some aspects of self, in the past disregarded, into conjunction with common interests, internally. The “strangers” are aspects of present self, partially, and aspects of other Personalities from other lives, symbolically represented in the recognized High School environment. They are recognized, yet distant. You have never required intimacy as a factor for receiving collaboration. Therefore these aspects can work together and not necessarily need intimacy fully realized.
[Michael_Entity] Next. Aa.
[Aa] I wanted to I wanted to ask what a ghost in a dream might symbolize? They’ve been showing up a lot in mine. Also, is the notion of the different levels of a house correlating with the conscious, subconscious etc. correct??
[Michael_Entity] In response to the first part: A “ghost” in the most respects symbolizes the template created and left unfulfilled by a fragment. These “ghosts” can be of templates created by present self or other Personalities. In your case, Aa, you attract those with which retained a template or imprint in their life, but feel it is unfulfilled. Those seeking resolution visit you regularly.
In response to the latter part of the question: We ask first if you mean this as in having multiple floors in a dwelling?
[Michael_Entity] Yes, this would be symbolic. They would only correlate to “sub conscious” or “conscious” if you chose to imbue them with that symbology. Most “levels” in a dwelling are indicative symbolically of the largest or most used space on that landing. The bedroom level could be said to be the “subconscious” then, but that must be individually determined. The levels and their meaning will need to be explored personally, if there is differentiation of levels at all.
[Michael_Entity] Next. La.
[la] What’s the meaning of recurring dreams in which I am trying to escape a huge, towering tidal wave, sometimes a female friend or child is with me?
[Michael_Entity] To walk through for La: The characters with you are EXPRESSIVE facets, the tidal wave is the INSPIRATIONAL facet, and the escaping is the ACTION facet. This dream is simply indicative of your want for protection of aspects of self that you feel have been brought against their will into highly charged, emotional “tidal waves” in your life. You are seeing these aspects of you (the young girl) as needing direction while the one aspect is in a position to act as guide (your present self), fully knowing the enormity of emotion that is swelling and engulfing you. This is a dream reflecting an on-going procession of healing between your present self, and a couple of past selves. You have always reached across time to encourage or seek support for self from self.
This leads us to a final important note needed for the Symbolic level. When in sleeping state, it is not always convenient to follow through with the symbols as they have been presented, once in waking state. It is the task then to take what you remember and follow it through in your imagination. In La’s case, it would be to turn and allow the tidal wave to wash over, standing strong, creating strength and trust against what was originally seen as only motivating “escape”. In most dreams remembered upon awakening, if there is a sense of symbolism and need for follow through, it is on the ACTION facet that you will direct the imagination.
The sleeping dream state on the Symbolic Level gives you an indication as to where you stand presently in your life in most cases, while the utilization of that information upon awakening can actually change the impact of the experiences originally symbolized in the dream. This is all simply another tool, though one usually only taken up by late mature and older souls.
[Michael_Entity] Last question: Ka
[Ka] I have a recurring image in my dreams, of a cat that talks and has some kind of superior wisdom or knowledge that I and the other around me do not have. What does this mean?
[Michael_Entity] This also stems from the Astral, by the way. This is a “familiar” of yours and a vehicle of expression, personified in a cat, used by your Essence as a conduit for messages from your own entity. Though your Essence has the final effect on your receipt of information, the source stems from accessing your discarnate entity members.
This symbol is drawn from your lives working with large felines as symbolically representing higher wisdom. There are quite a few of you as our students who place great emphasis on this species. This is partially due to their easy access to off-planet incarnated species as well; they are excellent conduits of various energies.
We will continue the next chat exploring the Astral Levels.
We suggest taking in your environment, from sleep and waking, through the understanding of those facets discussed here. We will summarize again:
The EXPRESSION facet is what you see as “you”, the INSPIRATIONAL as what is “not you” (taken as messages) and the ACTION facet is how you respond to any stimuli.
We will conclude here. Goodnight.