Full Transcript: 2008-11-09 – Open Floor

November 9, 2008
Troy Tolley, Channel

MICHAEL SPEAKS Online – Open Floor

[Michael_Entity] Hello to all of you. We are here. We will begin with a response to [the first] question.

[Question] Good evening, Michael. After having been separated, (this was my idea) for a number of years, my kitty cat is now living with me. At least for a while. (By mistake (?) I first wrote “living FOR me”…. ) She has been quite ill recently, tumors in her stomach, nervous heart, no appetite, etc. But when she came to me, back to her old home, it seems health and good spirits have returned. I have for a long time seen myself as somebody who “understands cats”. I am not so sure anymore…. Because of her frail health and because I have tried to find another home for her (I have a slight allergy plus travel a lot) I recently contacted an animal communicator. The message from my cat was, well, very touching. I am not so sure about me “understanding cats”, or this kitty at least. I will not go into the message, but at times it sounded like you, Michael. I wonder why. She spoke much less about her than about me, her Human. (Seems the philosophical school of Stoics were inspired by cats.) Could you throw some further light on the dynamics of animal communication? That was my question.

[Michael_Entity] For the most part, those who claim to “communicate” with animals in this particular regard are collecting and interpreting data (usually emotional data) as held by the form of the animal, but is not actual communication with the animal, itself. We will elaborate: We have spoken of this before, will we speak of it again, that the kingdom of higher mammals, particularly those within domestic proximity to humans (sentience), are exploring the development of the Emotional Center. In doing so, the animal more often than not becomes a sort of emotional extension, or representation, of the human with which it is bonding. Many of the behaviors and physical conditions of the domestic animal are then reflections, or extensions, of the human’s processes. Many animal communicators are then extracting that data and interpreting it back to the caretaker. Much in the same way that Psychometry works, the animal carries the imprinting and some can read/interpret emotional data of his/her caretaker.

[Comment] This was done over the telephone. I might add.

[Michael_Entity] Non-human animals do not “think” or “feel” in exact human terms, so the translation from the animal communicator must be relevant to the human. It has no bearing that this was done over the phone. Very few “animal communicators” are actually communicating with the animal, but rather extracting emotional data and translating it into relevancy to the human. This is not meant to diminish the value of the information, but simply to respond to your question.

[Question] Hi, Michael! Completing each Internal Monad in the positive pole is how we navigate thru each Level with-in the Soul Age; incompletion leaves the fragment in the negative pole of whichever “stage” of that IM. It seems to me that where a fragment is in relation to their IM’s would have a lot of impact on the Personality – as much as, say, the Goal & Attitude. There would have to be a strong Agreement, External Monad, or Karma to bring a person in negative completion of their 3rd IM (for example) in close relation to someone positively completing their IMs, no? Comments, please?

[Michael_Entity] We would not agree. A relationship with different results from the personal rites of passage in life is simply a spectrum of life. Two people may choose to endure the difference, build on the difference, complement each other, help each other, etc. but this would be a matter of choice, not necessarily a matter of binding through Karma or Monads, though it would be accurate to say that an Agreement in some form would be in place.

The Negative Completion of an Internal Monad (rite of passage) is usually the extended impact from the False Personality, rather than the other way around. We wish to clarify that “negative completion” is a bit of a misnomer as every Internal Monad “enters” through the negative pole and eventually completes from the positive pole. It simply happens to be that it may take more than one lifetime for a fragment to move to a point in the positive pole. In other words, if one is in the negative pole, it is not truly “completed.”

If enduring relationships were subject to the position two people are within their personal rites of passage, there would be very little learning.

[Question] It appears that atopic allergy is partly hereditary, but also that it is not well understood what causes it to break out. Could you comment, especially if there is a way to cure it?

[Michael_Entity] First we will say that every illness has a “cure,” but until the intellectual and emotional elements of disease are considered, most medicine and treatment will be relegated to the alleviation of symptoms and management. For the most part, every illness carries with it some amount of “universal” element, or “universal” instinctive issue that is consistent among human sentience. For instance, nearly every issue related to the skin is relative to a person’s issues with a sense of safety in the world. When the skin is involved, the fragment would do well to explore the beliefs and assumptions about “the world as a dangerous place.” The one with the allergy may not use such a broad term, but may find an instance in her past where someone (or a situation) left a wounding that is relevant to the sensitivity of this person’s place in her environment now.

When allergies are a part of a child’s physicality below the age of approximately 3 years old, the issues may be extensions from the primary caretaker. Children manifest symptoms relative to a caretaker in the same way that animal companions do.
Hereditary allergies or any other physical compromise inherited, are often a specific choice of the Essence before the life, or considered a tolerable compromise in relation to the bigger picture of the life. However, many within a line of hereditary compromises do not manifest these compromises, so the end-result is still relative to the beliefs and assumptions of the fragment. In terms of a cure for this specific condition of atopic allergy, management is the only thing we can see available from the established medical resourced, but the fragment can do his or her own work toward transforming the underlying assumptions and beliefs that may have contributed to activation of the sensitivity. Managing from the outside, while curing from the inside, is always a most powerful approach to any illness or compromised condition.

[Question] I recall reading in MFM (Messages From Michael) about “romantic” or mating relationships that many people arbitrarily decide they have a “great deal in common” and they decide to proceed w/ the “next step” whether that be co-habitation, marriage, having children, or “all of the above.” This often results in “broken contracts.” Michael mentioned something to the effect that possessing the personal trait of “willingness to allow one another the space to learn, grow and/or evolve” to be one of the most important characteristics of a strong, enduring relationship. I am paraphrasing from memory here, so hopefully my memory has SOME semblance of accuracy w/ regards to what Michael has said in the past!

My question is: Are there other considerations that can or should be given thought to (generally speaking of course) before one enters into or attempts an enduring relationship with another (marriage, for example) and if so, what are these considerations? I just look at the divorce rate getting higher and higher, and think to myself, “There should be a ‘better way,’ more of a ‘science’ to this courtship thing than there currently is given attention to.” It seems our current culture’s philosophy is more characteristic of a ‘throw in on the wall and see what sticks’ method. I realize that it is sort of in my “scholar” way to seek a “scientific method” for such a thing that is not all that “scientific.” ;) In addition, I might add that it also has not escaped my attention that this is may be too individual of a matter to be described in a more general sense (not to mention VERY broad), but I was curious about Michael’s thoughts on the matter. Of course, this might be why scholars seem to gravitate towards the Michael teachings: they seem very scientific method oriented — what w/ all the validation and such.

[Michael_Entity] Primate relationships are not easily confined to the constructs of marriage, which inherently contradicts the profane nature of most, but whether through marriage or through mutual commitment that is not constrained by laws, long-term commitment is, of course, possible, but not the goal for most, even if they would like to think so.

Beyond the social and cultural imprinting is the drive to evolve. Many quickly discover that they have associated the confinements of marriage and commitment with the cutting off of personal evolution. So not only does the individual have the profane nature of his primate self to contend with, but the higher drive to grow and evolve beyond perceived confinement. In a world that is evolving beyond cultural imprinting, evolving beyond incongruent rules and institutions, it is not surprising to us that a more fluid movement in and out of marriage has become a symptom of that evolution. This is not a sign of a breakdown of “morality,” or a sign of irresponsibility, but quite the opposite. From our perspective, this is a sign of ownership of CHOICE, even if this is rather new in your world. The transition from the false safety (and sanctity) of marriage (and other institutions) and into the unknown of personal choice and fluid navigation, can seem chaotic and even hurtful, but these are simply “growing pains” of your species. A pattern will eventually emerge to accommodate this fluidity. The entire concept of marriage is currently under revolution in your society precisely as a part of these growing pains and adaptations to a new paradigm, a more mature paradigm.

[Question] Could Michael give us an idea of how this paradigm usually manifests itself?

[Michael_Entity] In terms of entering into a relationship, if one wishes to bring about a greater amount of presence and intention to commitment, we could suggest comprehending how relationships work, which would help you to “hang in there” when working through these natural processes.

We will elaborate:

Inherent in any commitment, are 7 stages, whether this commitment is to a project or to a relationship, and these 7 Stages are:

Initiation Stage: You might recognize this as the stage for discovering commonalities. This stage inspires and offers up the entirety of potential for that relationship. This stage is often short-lived, but can last through most of the courting stage.

Discrimination/Discernment Stage: this is where most projects or relationships end, or remain stuck, because this is the stage where everything that WILL NOT WORK is brought up for examination. This examination is natural, and is a part of helping the evolution of that relationship by bringing to the awareness of all involved what might be pitfalls, traps, gaps, and an opportunity for finding solutions is intended here.

Many who enter this stage of a relationship tend to think that the information arising is a sign that the relationship is clearly not going to work, or that it is fated to collapse. Or the fragments involved realize that he or she is simply not interested in doing the work of finding solutions.

This stage is a natural and important factor for building a relationship because, in the same way that one would not build a home on a faulty, unchecked foundation would one builds neither a project nor relationship upon one.

The 3rd Stage, if one allows room for the insights, solutions, and wonder of discovering differences within the 2nd Stage, begins then. This is the Stage of Stability.

This stage is lengthy and acts as a plateau for the relationship; the home built upon the now-sturdy foundation.

This can last for many years.
As with any home, regardless of how sturdy the foundation, storms WILL arise. This is Stage 4: Interruption, Corruption, Threat, Challenge, etc.

No matter how strong or how long a relationship has enjoyed stability, CHANGE will come.

Understanding that this is an opportunity for rejuvenation, revitalization, revolution, reinforcement, can help one to navigate this natural process.

This is a natural part of any evolution in a project or relationship simply because it is the nature of the universe to evolve, and evolution requires CHANGE. Once a relationship or project has grown steadily for some time, it is natural to participate in the nature of change and evolution.

Many believe that infidelity at this point is a sign of a failed marriage, but this can be opportunity for re-evaluation and recommitment. Infidelity is the result of not understanding the need for change and challenge within the relationship. Change does not have to come in the form of threat or infidelity, but can come from a conscious choice to raise the stakes, bring on an adventure, and expand beyond the safety and stability enjoyed. In other words, knowing that “storms” may arise, the relationship can include as part of its commitment a built-in understanding and adaptability for this, because it WILL happen.

This stage, like stage 2, contributes the most to failed businesses, projects, and relationships. If one or both (or more) are not willing to do the work of navigating this storm, the progress dissipates. If all involved can find footing and opportunity in this uprising, then Stage 5 can begin, which is Healing, or recovery, adaptation to the new information, new direction, new elements.

Once the healing stage is implemented, Stage 6 can come about, which is the very personal comprehension, transformation, sense of completion. This is Stage 6, Gratitude. One comprehends the necessity and value of all that has happened.

A final stage of 7 is involved here, as well, but can be implemented at any point within all of these stages, and it is the Assimilation, Digestion, or “time out” stage. This could very well be the most important stage to comprehend as being vital to a relationship’s evolution. When a partner needs to call a “time out” or a halt to the intensity of events, it may not be pleasant or easy, but if the other can honor this, it can help both to get back on track TOGETHER, when both are ready.

There is much more to be said about these stages, but this is a fair synopsis, and would be our response to the question of an organized method for understanding what to consider before entering into a union or project.

[Question] I’ve read channeling from this channel that the president elect could be called the “president of disaster” but I am also hearing more positive channeling from others that this president elect is the one that will help bring about more positive change for our nation. could you elaborate on that, please.

[Michael_Entity] We would have to say that we have no channels at this time, from approximately 5 weeks before, and 5 weeks after, the U.S. election who are unaffected by personal experiences at this time. Both the optimistic and the pessimistic flavors are higher than ever and not sourced from us, even if much of the information is still clear.

We will clarify:

What this channel has described as “president of disaster” might have been more accurately described as a “president with the obligation to manage more turbulence and change than one president may have been known to have had to manage before.” This may show up as “disasters” or “revolutions of consciousness.” Both would be valid projections of probability.

What your country (and world) does with the inherent qualities of such a change in dynamic is far more relevant than what we, or our channels, or our students, or pundits project as possibilities.

In other words, there is a world of possibility and at this point, it will remain difficult to project, but this is Good Work. Most in your world have experienced a sudden, absolute awareness of possibilities that can only be created through choices and actions. In other words, this is the closest your collective sentience has ever come to “living from the Now,” so to speak.

It will not last, of course, but the possibilities are endless at this point.

We have described this year as carrying the energy of the Chief Negative Feature of Arrogance, which is the Fear of Vulnerability, and this became emphasized for exploration in October. This means that there was a high potential for defensiveness, reaction, a sense of self-protection to have arisen within the public this year, but what has happened is quite the opposite. We have never seen so much of the population collectively embrace vulnerability as strength, and not something from which to protect them. This drop in self-defense as a collective consciousness has moved many of you to tears.

We will have more to say about this in our Energy Report to be posted later, but we suspect that many of our students are seeing strange and beautiful signs within their personal lives indicating a sense of opening up to the world again, opening up to support, to trust, to vulnerability.

We will conclude here. Goodbye.