Full Transcript: 2009-02-08 – Open Floor

February 8, 2009
Troy Tolley, Channel


[Michael Entity] Hello to all of you. We are here now. We will begin with Geraldine’s question.

[Geraldine] Hello, Michael :) My question has to do with the term non-linear and incarnations. In discussion groups some are saying this means that incarnations work like time-travel. For example, one might live one incarnation in the 20th Century and then the next one in 6,000 BC with the corollary that one could live different Soul Ages in any time. However, I’ve noticed that no one get channeled as experiencing a future life for the “now” incarnation. I’ve interpreted it to mean that lessons learned, agreements completed, External Monads completed, or karma earned and burned isn’t dealt with in consecutive lives, but more in a hopscotch manner. Could you elaborate on what non-linear incarnations means?

[Michael Entity] Only upon the later stages of the Old Soul Age do non-linear incarnations become of any interest, and that is usually because there is little Karma with which to contend. However, previous to that Age, the process of incarnation is fairly linear, at least from your perspective. The non-linear aspects come into play in terms of evolution and comprehension, though. This non-linear aspect is because some concepts and experiences have to be pieced together for comprehension and evolution, and often those “pieces” are scattered across incarnations. This is similar to how a 50+ year old might have a current experience and suddenly grasp a concept that relates back to a childhood experience, collecting the “pieces of experience” from across time, so to speak. Comprehension and evolution is not always linear, but the process of incarnation is.

We will clarify that this is not a “rule,” but it is simply the nature of the universe. We are able to share our teachings because there is such order. Fragments are not popping in and out of time lines and incarnations to any meaningful extent outside of that natural order.

[luluaussi] does that mean the comprehension of these lives/lessons is accessible via this non-linear aspect as a “review” or assimilation?

[Michael Entity] In response to luluaussi: if we understand your question correctly, comprehension can come linearly or non-linearly. The combination of completed experiences and the digestion/assimilation of those experiences brings comprehension and evolution.

[Geraldine] So, Old souls you reached in Sumer would most likely be cycled off now.

[Michael Entity] Geraldine, very few, but some, Old Souls from “that far back” do still exist within incarnations.

[DianeH] Hello Michael. Could you talk about the energy of Persistence (positive pole of Perseverance)? i.e. What does it mean? What does it feel like? How do we consciously access it (or slide to it for those who are in Aggression) to assist with completing projects?

[Michael Entity] The Positive Pole of Perseverance can be most simply described as “not giving up.” It really is that simple. It is an Action overleaf, so the emphasis is on the tangible, including “feelings.” It is a conscious practice in DECIDING, which means always knowing that a next step is involved.

Perseverance is a Mode, so the emphasis here is on RELATING. This means that a tangible action in relation to a person or goal is described. When one is in the negative pole of Aggression, which is Belligerence, one has simply lost patience and has focused on the limitations of time. To slide to the positive pole of Perseverance, one remembers that time is not as much a constraint as NOT Doing something is.

So the Belligerent person, rather than flailing about maniacally, will focus the actions into a Decision, or next step, and this will pull them into the positive pole of Perseverance, which, of course, pulls them back into Dynamism, Aggression’s positive pole. Dynamism is basically the management of various parts of a system in a cohesive manner. The reason Aggression falls into the negative pole is similar to why a juggler might drop the dynamic juggling of objects: usually the person over-thinks and does not allow for the body-consciousness to flow, or is distracted.

One more thing to add, however, to complete the analogy, is that the sliding from Belligerence (the dropping of objects, but the continued flailing of arms) to Persistence, is like the juggler realizing she must actually pick those objects back up (Persistence) to return to juggling (Dynamism).

[luluaussi] In the most recent energy report, you said: “Many fragments move through the life carrying the weight of the past with the distraction of the future, finding little reconciliation between them, and these equally-opposing forces create a pressure that leads to Inertia. In a Moving Centered year, these areas of inertia may become painfully or delightfully apparent, allowing for opportunities of release into freedom.”
Could you elaborate on this and give guidance as to any fragments that could assist in understanding how to use current opportunities?

[Michael Entity] Imagine you are holding two very long ropes, one in each hand. The past is pulling the rope in one direction, while the future is pulling in the other, both equal in power of direction and strength. You are in the middle of this, arms outstretched, standing still, anchored. This is Inertia. Many know this experience, and it is not always a whole-life inertia, but may be in certain areas of the life. This year’s Flow may reveal to many where these areas of Inertia are in the life.

With the Moving Centered year in effect, the realization might be likened to the person in the middle finally trying to pull one or both arms, let go of one or both ropes, or some other action that releases one from this inertia. This release might be painful or delightful. If painful, it is because often the strain of the pull is not realized until the release. If delightful, it is the realization that this pain is a growing pain of sorts, and can be used as strength, not loss.

[luluaussi] yes events occurred that were a delightful release of old pain

[luluaussi] how does one keep equilibrium so that one can move out of inertial energy and find growth? Feel a bit at sea by these events and want to make the best possible use of the creative energy.

[Michael Entity] We would suggest a focus on your own Goal, as described in your personal Overleaves, as a helpful way to maintain a sense of direction during these first few months of the year.

In response to the question of any fragments that could assist in understanding how to use current opportunities, we could suggest the fragment known as Barack Obama, the current President of The United States. This fragment is exemplifying the shift from Inertia to Freedom. His exemplification is not without its obstacles and trials, which is inherent in any effort and not to be a sign of failure or limitation.

[Tom] Hello Michael. My question is with regards to Ram bahadur Bamjan (AKA the “ buddha Boy” of Nepal) and the year 2012. He has been said to have meditated for months at a time within the jungles of Nepal without food or water. The media attention upon this boy caused him to leave the area saying he would return in six years (which amounts to his return in the year 2012). To my knowledge, he has only been seen a small handful of times since 2006 when he made this claim. As usual, I have a handful of questions relevant to this matter. Is this someone that may be a Transcendental Soul or a fragment looking to “sign on” for Infinite Soul manifestation or maybe something much simpler ( for example: a boy being taken advantage of by someone else for money, fame, etc.) As a side note: does the 2012 date have any significance for an Infinite Soul manifestation (or anything else for that matter) or is this just another date folks point to as “apocalyptic” (like 2000) merely because it’s a common thing for humanity to count down to an apocalypse of one sort or another?

[Michael Entity] We know of the fragment about which you ask. The claims are exaggerated and misrepresented, but not maliciously. There are usually reasons for showcasing such things in certain cultures for the sake of continued inspirations and “hope.” Food and Water are provided, though those providing it under cover do consider the portions “not counting.” We would not describe the situation as one where the child is taken advantage of, but we also do not see much validity in the claims, at least on a physical plane level. In American culture you have tabloids that report on celebrities in a way that is parallel to the reports from within Nepal about this child. Most “news” is orchestrated, distorted, or exaggerated for effect, except in the case of the child in question, the effect is intended for inspiration, not entertainment.

As for 2012, we do not see it as having any more significance than any other year, especially since the calendar calculations are quite “off” in terms of the Mayan Calendar, but it will not be a year without elaborate events, particularly as the self-fulfilling prophecy is in high probability among many expecting (creating) events.

Your questions are more alike than separate, considering “2012” could be said to be a global version of the child in question: a mysterious and unavailable, lending excitement, hope, anticipation, etc. Something to “look forward to.” There have been many “2012’s” even within your own lifetime, from planetary alignments to harmonic convergences to y2k’s, etc.

The difference with 2012, however, is that it appeals to ALL Soul Ages, not just one, so that the Baby’s project Rapture, the Young project disasters, the Old project elaborate metaphysical events, and all converge in a way that we see as unprecedented in recorded history.

[Tom] certainly an infinite soul would be something to look forward to. It’d be nice to hear from someone who actually knows what they’re talking about, heh but I doubt there is a specific date the infinite soul would be “planning on”

[Michael Entity] Tom, the Infinite Soul was a high probability for manifesting previous to 2000 CE, but as human consciousness shifted and has evolved in a way that does not require “intervention,” the Infinite Soul probabilities have declined drastically. This is Good Work.

[Geraldine] When you grow up, you don’t need Daddy quite so often

[Michael Entity] However one interprets the world and its events at this point, everything is pointing toward evolution, comprehension, and Maturity, even if the shift and implementation is rocky, it is in effect full force.

[luluaussi] so in working in concert with one another we lessen the need for that type of intervention and therefore collectively are doing Good Work?

[Michael Entity] Yes, luluaussi.

We would agree with your metaphor, as well, Geraldine.

[luluaussi] I see:) so glad to be in this boat.

[Tom] I think I agree with your assessment Geraldine; of course much more now than say 4 years ago when bush was re-elected…I was thinking “daddy” need to step in a kick some metaphysical ass. LOL

[ocean-cheryl] Hello Michael. Lulu’s question was similar to mine, in that I find myself stuck second-guessing the past, even as I wish to create a better future. Present issues bring up things that I thought had been long resolved, creating a feeling of insecurity. Do you have any specific suggestions for accepting and releasing the “rope of the past”, so one can move more confidently into the future?

[Michael Entity] Cheryl, when one realizes that one has not resolved issues from the past, it only serves to hold on to them longer when one chastises oneself for not having already resolved them. You distract yourself with the self-chastising or exasperation and do not simply allow for the reality to be dealt with. It is the equivalent of a friend “bringing things up again” as you roll your eyes and begrudgingly give your attention to her or him. You are simply not present at that point, or at least, there is a delay in your presence.

When issues from the past come up “again” it would do you well to remember that if it is up again, it never left.

It would also do you well to remember that these things are not imposed upon you, but are a part of your life, a part of your creations, choices, fabric, and are just as valid as any efforts to create a better future. In fact, often when one decides it is time to focus on creating a better future, it can become daunting to find the anchors that are in place that have kept you from doing so all along, but your attention to these is Good Work. It is not punishment or failure.

[luluaussi] like the “flaws” found in a handmade rug, see by some as undesirable but are part of the intrinsic beauty that is the rug?

[ocean-cheryl] yes, the irregularities are what makes it unique

[luluaussi] and do nothing to diminish the beauty of functions either

[luluaussi] not sure if that was on point but the image popped into brain…

[Michael Entity] It would not be amiss to use the weaving, or crocheting, as an analogy for your process. If a stitch or loop is left out or tangled, it is often desireable to return to that stitch or loop, even if it means unraveling to that point, just to ensure the pattern is to your liking.

Often the overall fulfillment of the intended pattern is more rewarding than the frustration of returning to the tangle. It may be annoying in the moment, but if you choose to return to it, it is because you feel the reward of the finished creation is important.

So our response to your question would be to remind yourself of that overall reward and fulfillment and that your attention to issues of the past is a part of your creative process.

[ocean-cheryl] you could not have used a better analogy…. and i need to remember that often I am the only one who knows where the flaws are

[Michael Entity] We have more to say about repetitive patterns arising from the past, but will return to that subject at another time. In the future.

[meredith k] The rug analogy is really beautiful. This is my real question anyway. Am I in love, lust , friendship, commitmentphobia, delusion, nostalgia, politics, false hope or all of the above with said person. To make it general, how can we tell what is what better in interpersonal relationships? What is weird is that I have danced with him before, in this life, and he feels like a woman in a man’s body to me, which I like. So I also think in some way we are working on healing or homophobia, so who knows. You guys?

[Michael Entity] The questions you ask are ones that we cannot answer. The meaning between two fragments is one that is defined specifically by the fragments experiencing the relationship. If you are “in love,” allow it. If you are delusional, continue exploring for truths. If you are nostalgic, enjoy the references. If you are dealing with phobias, continue to raise your consciousness and confidence. One person can create, nurture, and/or define any meaning he or she wishes to have for a relationship, but if one wants to SHARE meaning, it is always best to communicate and define that meaning together.

We would say that if one is confused about the nature of a relationship, attraction, and definition then two things may be at work here:

Either not enough experience, or there is a discrepancy between what is expected and what is experienced. If lack of experience is the case, then the solution is simply to continue sharing experiences and communication until meaning can be defined. If discrepancy is the issue, then the solution is to be clear about what one wants and to eventually describe this to the other party. If you are unclear about what you want, then the priority is for that to be determined before imposing meaning or expecting definition from the other.

[meredith k] that is a lovely answer, I hear patience, reality, communication and self knowledge, honesty thank you

[Michael Entity] Often the meaning of a relationship is “left in the air” because of fear, so one party waits for the other to give a sign as to what the meaning is and then the other will adapt or leave. But it is healthy and fair to share your ideas about a relationship, knowing that these ideas may change even as you voice them.

[meredith k] absolutely the case here, lots of fear, unfortunately, waiting for the other to give signs. this is good advice also especially knowing that these ideas change as you voice them that is very important for me to hear.

[Michael Entity] For the most part, specific to your relationship in question, we would suggest that you enjoy the adventure and exciting anticipation, but also to remember that you are a co-creator of the relationship, not just a recipient of the other’s approval.

[tkmppi] “Nicknames are part of false personality. Sometimes even the false personality of the parent and not of the soul itself. The parents often give the child a name with a social significance, then promptly change it.” This quote from Messages from Michael has been discussed recently, in different groups, without getting much anywhere. What does it actually mean? Isn’t “a name with social significance” already a part of the parents’ false personality?

[Michael Entity] Names, in general, are a part of the False Personality in many cases, not just nicknames, so you are correct in that the last part of our statement is synonymous with the first part. They are simply addressing two different dimensions of the same situation. The original name, when chosen for social significance, is usually pre- birth, while the other is post- birth . The post- birth nicknaming is usually a more specific aspect of False Personality than the pre- birth naming. Nicknames can be generated by the fragment, itself, as he or she moves into society, thus we pointed out that post-birth nicknaming can come from the parents, and not just from the fragment (soul) itself.

[sandy] I recently read some infomation about a previosly unmention TS. Could Michael elaborate on what a TS is and how they manifest? Also if they don’t mind could Michael tell us again who the TS’s have been?

[Michael Entity] A Transcendental Soul is our way of describing an incarnation of one fragment representing the collective knowledge of its entire cycled-off Entity. They “manifest” in the same way that any other fragment incarnates, with a birth , internal monads, life, etc. However, they are free from any Karmic Ribbons, though not free from Self-Karmic explorations, since Personality and imprinting is still involved. We have described through our channels about the “manifestation” of the Transcendental Soul, and by this we describe the individual’s realization of that direct connection to his or her Entity on some significant level. However, this “manifestation” is not much different from any of you realizing your own Essence and “manifesting” this. It is not a magickal or specifically elaborate ordeal, but it does change the nature of the life to a great degree.

[Geraldine] You’ve also stated that every Entity uses a TS as a teaching method — and there have been many cycled-off Entities — why so few TS that are known?

[Gerber] Is Barack Obama a TS?

[Michael Entity] Barack Obama is not a Transcendental Soul. He is an extraordinary fragment to many, but no more extraordinary than any of you. The context of his life may showcase his Essence in a way that many of you will not be showcased, but that does not diminish the extraordinary in the ordinary of any of you.

[DianeH] So that mean the TS does not displace a fragment like the IS?

[Michael Entity] Manifestation of the Transcendental Soul could be described as “displacing the fragment,” and we have described it as such through some channels, but this simply describes the fragment shifting from that individual focus to the collective focus, representing a whole, and not just a part.

[Gerber] Thank you Michael- I asked that question because Mr. Obama seems unusually aware of the collective needs of his societies ( both immediate and seemingly universal).

[Michael Entity] Gerber, this is the nature of a Priest in the positive poles. Oprah Winfrey would be another example of a Priest in the positive poles. The hallmarks of Transcendental Souls are the lack of sexual activity, lack of affiliation with any organized religion, and an emphasis on some form of social revolution, even if only in a relatively small circle. They actually do very little to bring about the revolution but their presence is enough to spark it. The Priest who is Barack Obama holds none of these hallmark traits.

[Gerber] Then they must be rare indeed.

[sandy] Does this mean that you, Michael, could be born one more time?

[Michael Entity] Sandy, yes, we will incarnate as a Transcendental Soul in at least one parallel. All Entities do so.

[Gerber] Please explain the use of the word “parallel”- parallel universe perhaps?

[Michael Entity] Yes, we used the term “parallel” to mean a parallel version of incarnations relative to Earth.

[Gerber] Thank you- and are there a limitless number of these?

[Michael Entity] Gerber, it could be said that there are limitless numbers of parallels, though they could be counted.

[sandy] So in our parallel the TS’s in recorded history are?

[Michael Entity] Gandhi is a clear and relatively recent example of a Transcendental Soul. Socrates, Confucius, Mohammed, Zarathustra, are other examples of Transcendental Souls. These are the only ones we know of in recorded history that may be known to you, as well. Contributing to the list of Transcendental Souls among our channels and students are those souls who have contributed in ways similar to a Transcendental Soul, but are not Transcendental Souls. It may not come as a surprise to some of you that so many cannot accept the extraordinary from the ordinary. In fact, many fragments are capable of what the Transcendental Soul effects. In addition to the names we listed above, many Transcendental Souls have come and gone without notice on global scales, but are tremendously effective in villages, communities, family lines, societies, etc. The impact can be a cumulative, slow, long-term effect fulfilled by many with little recognition brought to the originator of that social revolution.

We will conclude here. Good day to each of you. Goodbye.