Full Transcript: 2009-05-10 – Open Floor

May 10, 2009
Troy Tolley, Channel

Michael Speaks – Open Floor

[Michael Entity] Hello to everyone. We are here. We will begin with a response to the question from Geraldine.

[Geraldine] Hello, Michael. I’ve been reviewing information on concurrent incarnations and would like some additional information about their mechanics–such as: 1) what soul age primarily utilizes them; 2) if one concurrent finishes the IMs in positive pole, does this cause the others to undergo a level change; 3) if one concurrent causes karmic ribbons, does this affect the other concurrents; 4) do concurrents have substantially different overleaves, trues to accomplish, and agreements; 5) do concurrents finish out a round of incarnations before beginning a new round of incarnations or is there a more or less continual launching of a new concurrent as another one dies; and/or, of course, anything you might add to explain how concurrent work.

[Michael Entity] We will respond to each question:

In response to question 1, though there is no rule to the use of concurrents by an Essence, there does tend to be more use of these in the Mature and Old Soul Levels. Another factor that can contribute to the use of more concurrents is the amount of land that is being utilized that the sentient race. If many fragments from that species are spread in many directions, this can tend to influence any Essence, regardless of Soul Age, to incarnate in multiple bodies.

In response to question 2; keep in mind that Internal Monads happen on two different levels and we will work with our channels to help encourage a clearer differentiation. There are Internal Monads relative to the aging of the body, and there are Internal Monads relative to the aging of the Soul. With that in mind, the Internal Monads of the body are specific to a concurrent, but the Internal Monads relative to Essence are contributed to by all bodies.

In response to question 3; while the concurrents are incarnated, the karmic ribbons generated are specific to those bodies and have no bearing on the other bodies incarnated at the same time, however, those unburned ribbons will carry into other lifetimes as usual.

In response to question 4; Each concurrent is no different from the idea that you may have for the more linear incarnations. They are each their own. Each will have its own set of Overleaves, “Trues,” and Agreements. The degree to which they may be similar or different is simply a matter of agenda for the Essence choosing to incarnate in these multiple bodies.

In response to question 5; To Essence, incarnating through multiple bodies is no different from incarnating in a more linear fashion, so the evolution will occur on the terms of Essence, however we do tend to see a pattern of concurrents exiting for the sake of review before launching a new “round” of concurrents, if that would be the choice of Essence to do so again.

[luluaussi] does good work by one concurrent affect the progress of the essence as a whole? or is that too specific to the concurrent doing the work?

[Michael Entity] In response to Toni: The “Good Work” of a concurrent is relative to that Personality’s Life Task, and by extension, the fulfillment of any Life Task is beneficial for Essence.

[Martha] IMs relative to the soul – what are those? How we progress through soul levels?

[RabidNelson] I think they mean the “External Monads”, the teacher/student, master/slave, etc. kind of experiences

[Michael Entity] In response to Martha: Yes, each Soul Level is only able to transited when completing 7 Internal Monads. As many of our students know, there are several lifetimes involved in processing an Internal Monad. The body and Personality may have reached 40 years old and moved on into retirement stages, for instance, but this does not mean the challenges of the 4th Internal Monad were completed in terms of contributing to the evolution of Essence. In fact, the 7 Levels of any Soul Age Level ARE the 7 Internal Monads.

[Michael Entity] In response to Jonathan; no, we were speaking of the Internal Monads, the 7 rites of passages that each fragment passes through in relation to itself as a means of evolution, not only of the body, but of the soul.

[luluaussi] Then if I am understanding this, our casting placements in concurrents are the same, but with the “lifetime” particulars different, each having the same global job but through a different lens; the multiple lives serve to accelerate the essences development?

[Michael Entity] In response to Toni: Everything relative to the design of Essence remains consistent. Only the Personality dynamics would change.

[Geraldine] I definitely would like to see additional differentiation on IMs . . .as I thought that if one incarnation of Personality didn’t complete a particular IM in positive, the next incarnation had to complete it before progressing to the next IM — this would imply that concurrents would then do additional incarnations to complete IMs

[fiestycappy78] I have recently had an inner realization reading a book on Adviata/Non-Duality (The Outrageous Myths of Enlightenment by Stephen Wingate). Where do your teachings fit in with the main teaching of Advaita, which says that Consciousness Is-And we are THAT. There is no separate self. The separate self is an illusion. My question, specifically, is around the idea of CHOICE and FREE WILL. Michael always speaks of CHOICE, but who has CHOICE if there is only ONE…? Isn’t choice by the personality/Ego merely an illusion?

[Michael Entity] Our response to this would be that there is validity to that philosophy, but as with many higher philosophies, they are rather tunnel-visioned. Of course, if one were to look at the original source (Tao, God, All-That-Is, etc.) and see that this ultimate force generated this universe, it could be easy to say, “where was my choice in this?” However, we encourage you to look at your current lifetime for that answer. It may be true that your parents birthed you and therefore, “you” had no choice in being born, but what you have done since that point HAS been your choice.

With that in mind, we suggest looking at the parameters if Choice as being more accurately understood as Choices WITHIN. In other words, “you” may not have chosen to be created as a Personality, but you DO have choice WITHIN the life that you have. You may have limitations on certain aspects of life due to physiological, psychological, geographical, socio-economical parameters, but you do have choice WITHIN those limitations.

Choice exists on all levels, even down to the cellular and subatomic levels, however the magnitude of impact and parameters increase the “higher” one goes. On cellular levels, for instance, choice is atomic, simply used as a matter of navigation.

[fiestycappy78] Who has this choice? The personality/Ego? I have seen that the personality/EGO is not real…it is a collection of memories, thoughts, ideas, beliefs, self-image. So, who has the choice? Essence?

[Michael Entity] The “who” of the choice-making is relative to the context. The more limited the context, the more linear the choice-making. The broader the context, the higher the consciousness used, and the more non-linear the choice-making. In the end, it is ALL “you,” though the more linear aspects may disagree. And that is their prerogative. The more limited the choice, the more power the choice-maker has in that context. Think of the horse and rider, with the rider being Essence and the Personality being the horse. The horse will always have the specific details about the more limited contexts of where to step next, and can always buck the rider, if he chooses to do so. Or they can work together with one seeing the higher perspective for guidance, while the more focused perspective can navigate the terrain.

Within a lifetime, both Essence and Personality have choice, however, Personality has the ultimate power of choice within the lifetime. Essence will not interfere with the choices of Personality. Personality can choose to reject Essence and navigate the life completely “on its own.” However, Personality eventually learns how to manifest Essence and co-create the life through choices that are made on the levels of Personality, and leaving the higher patterns to Essence. If any of you choose to see yourselves as illusions and that your lives are merely the products of some higher force’s choices, you are missing the point. But that is your choice.

We would not agree with the philosophies that render the ego, the personality, or the lifetime as merely illusions. That is a perspective lacking in compassion and awareness, as your collections of memories, thoughts, beliefs, self-image are as “real” to YOU as any other level of reality is “real” to the observer that is “there.” We are certain that “Tao” knows of all of us as being as “real” as itself, much like any creator of expression or art, or builder of plans, or teacher of thought would think of the creation, structure, or impact as having as much life and validity as the creator, builder, teacher, etc. We would think it very difficult for any of you to prove you and your experiences are merely illusion, which is not to say that many of you cloud the experiences and often sensationalize the journey with unwarranted fears, but that is part of the human experience and you eventually clear the way. Until you clear the way, even the clouding and distortion is as “real” as it is to you, until it is not.

[fiestycappy78] Okay…I understand both perspectives, and I think that I will have to keep looking into my own experience…

[Michael Entity] “Feisty,” that is a fair analysis: that both perspectives hold valid truths.

[Martha] Last week you talked on TLE radio about it getting uncomfortable for older souls around feeling “authentic”. This is something I am currently working on. It feels wrong somehow to not be myself, especially at work, or social settings, but then if I am completely myself in all situations then I out myself as being “not normal”. And it’s hard to have to deal with that over mundane issues, seems like it would add unnecessary complexity to some aspects of life. Can you elaborate on this issue?

[Michael Entity] Martha, this is a common dilemma for the Older Souls and is rooted in what we refer to as Self-Karma, the internal divisions within the self that seek resolution. This particular Self-Karma can be described as a battle between honest expression and censorship. To most Older Souls, censorship feels repulsive, and this is amplified for the Expressive Roles. In fact we would be hard-pressed to find any valid Old Soul who supported any form of censorship. Censoring oneself as a means to “fit in” feels like one is a “walking lie,” or liar, and enforcing censorship upon others is something we have never seen an Old Soul impose.

[Martha] yes it does feel like that

[Michael Entity] How others see you has no bearing on who you are. It is not always a matter of integrity in expression that your Being be clearly reflected back to you through those around you. In fact, being able to adapt to certain social contexts is a skill implemented by the Older Soul (begrudgingly, but a skill, nonetheless,) and not a curse. The feeling of “not being yourself” has no bearing on your levels of honesty, nor your integrity of Being. Ultimately, all fragments extant will find themselves in contexts where they can say, “This is who I am,” and other contexts where they say, “This is who I must be.” In those instances where one feels one “must be,” it would then be up to you to determine if this is a context worth sustaining in your life, or if it is time to move from that context. For many, the “must be” context is required for the self to draw an income, maintain peace in a relationship, fulfill responsibilities, etc. Many fragments “must be” a parent, even when they do not want to be. Many fragments “must be” at work, even when they do not want to be. The experience in sustaining these contexts, even through those bad days, is the implementation of your higher perspective, or manifesting of Essence, since you can see the payoff and the necessity of your choice. In those instances that you have decided that the context is worth it, then it would do you well to recognize that you have made an honest choice, ironically upholding the integrity of your Being, your soul and personality, since you know this is a context that gives back to you in a way that is valuable for other areas where you feel you “can be yourself.” Eventually, the Personality will find little discrepancy in itself between one context and another, especially as one owns the fact that those contexts are being sustained by choice, even if only “for now.” We will also note that every fragment can find at least one other fragment in which to confide and “be herself” in any context where one feels limited. This relationship is one that can be found with some amount of discernment and patience, provided one is not being held captive and against one’s will, which is a karmic situation, not a situation of choice.

[Martha] clearly then it’s crucial to have some areas where you can be yourself

[jon] Is it ever truly required for a fragment to stay in one of those contexts? For example, you may need a job to eat and stay alive, or one could be a slave, required to act a certain way or die

[Michael Entity] Jon, Slavery is often not a matter of choice, but the same concepts would apply within those stricter limitations: one’s imposed environment does not destroy who one IS, even in the most horrific conditions lacking choice, and confidence in at least one other fragment is often available even within those conditions.

[luluaussi] hello Michaels. in regard to the approaching nexus: It seems that fear and greed is running neck and neck during these economic times with events such as the bulldozing of foreclosure properties in California which seem not only wasteful but without any real thought to “creating” only destroying …could you comment on this in terms of the upcoming Nexus….does the radical restructuring of the global economy and our connections to each other, how people view their participation in this process come into play with the new platform?

[Michael Entity] In terms relative to the upcoming Nexus and these situations that seem to indicate such destructive factors and forces, the Nexus toward the end of the month may actually bring about some relief, as it appears to be a movement toward generating realities of solutions, choices, and footing. However, in the larger scheme of things, this force of destruction is, so far, a result of resistance by Baby and Young to the Mature Soul paradigm. However painfully or dramatically the evolution moves, we do not see many probabilities where a new paradigm of Resource-Based Economy does not take root in your world..

[luluaussi] how can we proceed to as older souls to navigate through these times most effectively

[Michael Entity] The loss of so much property, prosperity, and the experience of this being in the hands of forces beyond those of “the people” is no longer of interest to your average level of sentience.

[Geraldine] My observation is that most old souls were likely least affected by much of the economic turmoil as they are less material-oriented

[fiestycappy78] that is certainly true in my case. I had nothing to lose!

[Michael Entity] What we would suggest for the Older Soul as a means to navigate what might seem to be the tougher, challenging times of your economy and society is for the Older Soul to choose the higher perspective of trust in the evolution of your species as a whole, which is in evidence at every turn, despite the media emphasis on the more entertaining snags and dragging of feet, as well as a focus on how to increase the joy in your own life as a means to be a source of what you might consider to be a “positive force” in your world.

[Geraldine] me, too — I already was at the bottom due to early parts of the turmoil a few years ago — and had already changed my perspective — my volunteering will continue

[luluaussi] ah ….you have indicated to me earlier that my own platform choices have been about balance between responsibility and playfulness I can see where this makes sense

[Michael Entity] It is true that many of our Older Students see the impending changes and “destruction” as something that is happening “out there,” in much the same way that the parent may see the growing pains of a teen, doing all one can to encourage a healthy direction, but knowing that the teen will do what he will do to learn.

[oceancheryl] Could you please share your perspective of the recent Twin Oaks gathering? The energy felt very intense there, and I am wondering what kind of work we all were/are doing on levels other than the physical. I still feel like I am doing a lot of processing from the gathering.

[Michael Entity] There are a multitude of levels, agreements, and exchanges that are too many to go into here, but we can say that the overall theme for all involved was one of increasing the experience of, and the implementation of, Agape. To the extent that one may have felt challenges in feeling loved, or being loving, in the true sense of the word, Agape, is the extent to which one may have continued to feel the effects from the gathering. A great amount of healing was generated during the gathering, and this sense of encouraged alignment left one with a clearer internal perspective as to what is inspiring in one’s life, what is not, and what one wants to do next, if that internal perspective is willing to be explored.

[tkmppi] What is the greatest possible difference in Soul age and level between Essence Twins?

[Michael Entity] Tuija, we have never seen the Soul Ages between Essence Twins to be more than 3 Levels in difference, but knowing the flexibility of our universe, there are probably exceptions.

[jon] What is stress? And what are good ways of reducing it (or at least its harmful effects)?

[Michael Entity] We would define Stress, in this case, as Unwarranted Pressure, outwardly or inwardly. Outwardly, this could be said to be Resistance. Inwardly, this could be said to be Anxiety.

Resistance and Anxiety are forms of defensiveness against that which has been deemed an imposition of Time or Space. Resistance is a defense against the demands of Space, or your environment, and Anxiety is a defense against the demands of Time.

Ways of reducing Stress would be to update your perceptions and actions to relieve you of this unwarranted Pressure. Much of what is experienced as Stressful are situations that are more anticipatory than real. When one can update the perceptions to focus only on that which is tangible, then navigation through time or space can move more comfortably and freely.

Friction is a natural part of life. In all lifetimes, through all Soul Ages and by all Essences, Friction will be experienced until the “end.” Friction is the experience generated by opposing forces in the life, and in the Positive Pole, it could be said to be Evolution, and the Negative Pole could be said to be Stress.

Evolution is the resolution of those opposing forces as a means to move onward; Stress is the defense against those forces as a means to remain in a pseudo state of safety.

There are many ways one can relieve stress, such as walking, eating well, meditating, dancing, having outbursts, etc, but the most effective way is in updating the perceptions to manage only that which can be managed, and to allow room for your awareness of the forces of time and space, without the need for defensiveness against them.

A more elaborate response might be in order here at some point, but we think this is some food for thought in regard to your question.

We will conclude here. Good day to each of you. Goodbye.