Karma and Self-Karma

November 30, 2004

I’ve wanted to have Michael respond to this (and several other questions) for some time now, so here we go:

ALAN ASKED: If a person abandons his/her partner and the partner commits suicide does that person who leaves incur any karma? Does the person committing suicide incur self karma?


Abandonment can lead to Karma if the abandoned party was left with an obvious interference to his or her ability to choose. Many who choose to “abandon” another fragment are simply choosing a different path, which is healthy and natural in the process of a lifetime; however, those “left behind” by the fragment will usually generate Self-Karma as a result, unless (as stated) an interference to his or her ability to choose is a direct result of that “abandonment.”

Karmic Abandonment can be seen in instances where a helpless child or invalid is left to die or starve as a result of the Abandonment (or Neglect). An adult who is simply attached to another fragment who is choosing another path cannot hold the “abandoning” fragment as responsible for the feelings that are generated from that experience.

Suicide is a choice. If a person has the means, the power, and the tools to commit suicide, he or she also has the means, power, and tools to choose otherwise. Therefore, suicide is rarely a direct result of Abandonment, but more a direct result of False Personality and the self-convincing of worthlessness.

Suicide is chosen for one of two reasons: the individual has determined that she will absolutely NEVER have the one (or more) things that would finally, absolutely prove she is worthy; or the individual has profoundly determined that she has gained everything that can possibly be gained from the current lifetime and that she is “done.” Suicide extends from Self-destruction, but at its more peaceful end of the spectrum can also arise from the qualities of Greed, and is usually restricted to those who have heavy Intellectual Centering with very little ability to funnel the processes of thought appropriately.

Self-Karma is never directly related to a past life. All Self-Karma is generated WITHIN the current lifetime. This does not mean there are no resonances, patterns, and themes across lifetimes as related to Self-Karma, but all Self-Karma is created by the Personality throughout the dynamics of remembering how to choose again within the current lifetime. This is why we call it Self-Karma, as it has to do with that particular “self”, or Personality.

Self-Karma is the list of “issues” you have acquired that divide the self into two polarities and you may or may not seek to resolve that polarity within the lifetime. Self-Karma is always a matter of being able to see two sides to an issue, being aware that you are choosing only one side, but eventually seeking to comprehend the spectrum of that issue, and learning to choose appropriately within that experience.

Self-Karma is always about YOU in relation to You, Others, Situations, or Events.

An example from each might be:

Self-Karma in relation to YOU

I eat too much/I enjoy eating

Self-Karma in relation to OTHERS

I am unlovable/I am lovable

Self-Karma in relation to SITUATIONS

I can’t do it/I can learn

Self-Karma in relation to EVENTS

The world is getting worse/I see potential and can effect changes

Each of these examples would have a “middle ground” to be found that acknowledges both ends of the polarized experience, yet resolves the issue; therefore relieving the Personality of that Self-Karma.

We can speak more thoroughly about Self-Karma in future exchanges or in a class, but we believe this will give you enough for consideration in relation to the question.