Orin and DaBen

[Excerpt from TT: 2004-08-05]

[Question] Could Michael comment on some of the channeled material from “The Pathwork” and Duane and Sayana Roman? Are these astral or causal entities? Are these channeled materials helpful?

[MEntity] We are familiar with “Orin” and “DaBen” as presented through Duane Packer and Sanaya Roman. “Orin” and “DaBen” are what might be called the “Oversouls” of the two fragments in question. Orin and DaBen are the personifications of the representative, collective knowledge gained by the entities to which Duane and Sanaya belong. Rather than channeling a separate entity, such as our channels do for us, Duane and Sanaya are actually channeling their own Entities. This is NOT in the form that a Transcendental or Infinite Soul would manifest, but simply as an Old Soul would creatively convey the knowledge that “bleeds through” the collective of an entity that is nearly completed in its physical plane cycle.

Although a bit confusing to linear thinking, it could even be said that Duane and Sanaya are channeling their “future selves”. Each of you have two types of “Oversoul”. One is the collective identity of the Entity to which you belong, while the other is the collective identity represented by the name of a lifetime in which your Essence felt particularly personified. “Orin” and “DaBen” are variations on the names of the individual Oversouls, but the source of information between Orin and DaBen is the collective Entity to which Sanaya and Duane belong. The channeling is not only valid, it is “helpful”.