[Excerpt from TT: 2008-02-10]
[Question] Hello, Michael, thank you. I read an amazing book that tied your teachings of Roles, etc. into astrological charts. Great detail was gone into using the Nodes, Saturn etc. and how they reflect the CF’s and much more. This work has been an inspiration for me and I wondered if there will be more work on using astrological systems with the Michael Teachings coming to us? Also, do you have any comments on using astrology within this context? Book was by Gina Lake..
[Michael Entity] Any system beyond our own can often be used for “dove-tailing” and cross-references, but we would always encourage caution in trying to superimpose systems upon one another. Though there are connections among all valid teachings, they are still completely different systems.
In terms of Astrology, we find little resonance to our teaching beyond a certain degree of overlap regarding the unfolding the life. For the most part, Astrology can dove-tail quite smoothly with the explorations of Karma and Self-Karma, which would include the exploration of the Nodes and in particular, Transits across the Natal Chart.
When we say that we find “little resonance,” we will clarify here that even that little bit is quite a wide array and can be used as a valid overlapping. Natal Charts in Astrology speak of the potential of Personality, as does the Overleaf system, but the Overleaves as we describe them cannot accurately be superimposed over the planets and houses to any consistent or meaningful degree. To simplify what we mean here is to point out the trying to find a consistent way of overlapping a system of 7 with a system of 12; it is not impossible to find correlations, but only if explored loosely. If the Natal Chart is used alongside the Overleaf system as two different ways of looking at the same picture, then much is gained, but to superimpose them together would cause loss of validity and effectivenees in both areas. As mentioned previously, we find the exploration of the transits to be the most meaningful dove-tailing with our teaching, as we have not shared to any great degree our system for mapping your karma, yet, but it is closely aligned with what is considered “astrology.”
The only valid astrological correlation that is directly linked to our Overleaf system is the Body Type, which is found at the midheaven at the moment of conception (not birth). Casting a Natal chart as relative to conception would give rise to a great deal of insight into the health, well-being, and maintenance of the Body. We do, however, realize that the moment of conception is not an easy detail to validate, but some amount of accuracy can be utilized by retro-fitting your Natal chart to accurately show the corresponding planet that relates to what you’ve deducted as your Primary Body Type as it’s corresponding planet sits at the mid-heaven.
To summarize a bit here, we would say that Astrology is most aligned with our teaching when exploring the DEVELOPMENTAL aspects of a lifetime, such as Internal Monads, Karma, Self-Karma, but also in areas relative to any part of our teaching couched in a system of 12, such as the Circle of Support. For instance, comprehending the indications of your North and South Nodes can help bring about a deep awareness of your Karmic patterns, internally and externally. Watching the transits of planets across the houses can give an indication of what Karma is being emphasized at any given time. Observing the clusters of planets throughout the Natal chart can give great clues to how you utilize your Support Group. These are simplified examples.
Again, this is a subject worth exploring further, but we believe this will be a fair amount of food for thought, so to speak, for now.
[Response] I will be excited to see the system for mapping our karma! Thank you so much for the insights. The correlating of numbers 7 and 12 makes a lot of sense. Thank you.